Followup with Thomas Ptashnik
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Thomas Ptashnik is a Psychology PhD student interested in working on this with us. He is using the SOEP-Core data and familiar with SEM/Latent variable methods.
These items correspond to the SOEP-IS surveys, which can be found here (use item names, like Q132, to search quickly
2017: https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f
2018: https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2018-f
These links also mention that individuals with preexisting data access can apply for expanded access. I [Thomas] have access to SOEP-core version 36 (1984-2020 surveys),..
I think we might see positive responses to the Fehr et al questions and donation choices as โnecessary but not sufficient' for people to become effective givers or even EAs. If (especially in spite of the de-biasing) people still donโt support international redistribution, international orgs, and donโt opt to give from the lottery earnings to the global poor person โฆ I think they are very unlikely to be susceptible to an EA or effective giving (e.g., GiveWell) appeal. (See further discussion and debate on this below). (But, as a check on this, it might be good to try to ask these same questions on a sample of actual EAโs and effective givers, and a comparison group!. #surveyexperiments)
I envision two related projects on the same data: 1. Building a 'portable' model for prediction to aid targeting and 2. Building a 'deeper' model to aid understanding
Iโm hoping that looking for predictors of (or โcoherent factors explainingโ) these responses in the SOEP data would prove useful for organizations like GWWC to consider โwhich groups to target in doing outreachโ (and perhaps especially โwhich groups to rule outโ)
I hope we can do a sort of โleak-proof validated predictive ML model for thisโ
perhaps especially relevant for the German/EU context
Thomas: After talking it over with some colleagues, I think this approach is our best bet in terms of developing something with practical utility that still has a chance of being published in an academic journal. This is not my area of expertise, but if I remember correctly you have some R code already written. So I should quickly be able to put something together.
2. An (exploratory model) to help understand key factors that might be driving EA-adjacent attitudes and behaviors, offering insight into โwhat drives people towards or away from this mindsetโ.
Here we could engage the richer set of SOEP variables and consider latent factors
Red team:
[red team]
I guess it will be interesting to find out through your analysis:
Are these measures predicted by plain altruism + cosmopolitanism (which a priori we might say are more likely to be connected to EA)
Or are these measures predicted by egalitarianism + belief we should repay the third world / belief the rich should help the poor (which seem like they may be less closely connected with EA)*
*of course EAs are overwhelmingly liberal/egalitarian, but liberal/egalitarians are overwhelmingly not EA, which I think is an important complication"
RT2: Is there any way you can think of to get at EA more like a style of thinking/justification of choices as opposed to possibly the highly context-dependent choices are themselves? Some kind of relevant psychometric things are probably possible e.g., need for cognition or something similar RT1:
One option create or use measures of maximising + cosmopolitanism + altruism (or of maximising cosmopolitan altruism) ... maybe we are getting at 'EA style of thinking'. And if we can show that these more abstract measures are connected to behavioural or otherwise more concrete measures of EA inclination (whether that's decisions/choices, signing up for mailing list or something else) then it does seem reasonable to think of these as capturing EA inclination.
The risk otherwise is that theoretically we think these 3 things correspond to EA thinking... and actually they don't ...
Consider NFC, IRT, Rationality Quotient etc. as predictors of EA-inclination \
(DR ideas)
IMO it would be nice to have some meaningful behavioral (incentivized) measures on top of the โpsychโ ones. The โdonation to the very poorโ measure in Fehr et al gets at this a bit โฆ although its a pretty small probablistic sacrifice. And I suspect it measures all three of the above except maximizing. And I donโt think these things are all separable, so I think that the fact that it measures โaltruism and willing to sacrifice in a cosmopolitan-relevant contextโ is good.
It would also be pretty nice to have a behavioral/incentivized measure of โmaximizing in an altruistic contextโ โฆIf Fehr ea had asked them to (e.g.) allocate giving among a German poor person, an African poor person, and themselves, this might have been a decent measure.
(We have this choice in some other contexts though โฆ not as rich data but maybe worth digging into). Why might that choice have been better (in some ways) than a hypothetical choice? Because I imagine in a hypothetical choice some people would be like โOK they obviously want me to say support the poor person in Africa, and I see the maximization arguments, so, fine.'But when it involves real money, and even their own money, I expect that for some people, other motives will outweigh the โmaximizing motiveโโฆโwait, Iโd rather keep the money than give it to an African who will waste itโโwait, if this is real, Iโd rather help someone localโ.
DR: See sidebar comments
Lasso regression to identify the most salient cluster [DR: how is this defined?] of predictors for effective giving
I will use k-fold cross-validation to compare a lasso model with ridge regression and OLS to confirm it is the best method for handling our data [DR: 'best in what sense? I recommend the elastic net approach if possible.]
To start, Iโm just considering the 2017 survey and the control group (i.e., those who werenโt notified of their position in the national and global income distribution (~700 individuals). We can expand to the 2018 survey and the treatment group in future analyses using the same method (although some items may not be included across surveys).
Q280 and 281 in the SOEP-IS dataset developed by Fehr et al. (2019)
You were paired with another household in Kenya or Uganda. This household belongs to the poorest 10 percent of households worldwide. Now, you have 50 EUR at your disposal and can split this amount between the other household and you in any way you want. If this task is selected for payout, you will receive the amount you decided to keep at the end of the interview. The amount you want to give the other household will be given in full to the other household (without transaction costs) at the end of the field period by Heidelberg University via a charitable organization. In full means that every given euro will be received by the other household 1:1. A leaflet with information about the donations will be given to you after you have made your decision. I ask you to make this decision alone now.โ
โHow much of the 50 EUR do you want to keep and how much do you want to give the other household?โ
2017 survey questions: https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f
Below I list variables below in terms of what the intended construct Iโm trying to get at and the proxy measures that are available within the SOEP dataset.
[DR: I think 'previous failire to find significant effects' shouldn't be reason to exclude!]
Variables held constant by the survey design (see Bekkers & Wiepking 2007 for detailed explanation): Solicitation, benefits, reputation, and efficacy.
Construct *outlined in review articles | Brief Rationale for Inclusion | Items from SOEP |
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Religious involvement* | One of the most studied variables in philanthropic studies. However, a large body of research finds that religious involvement is not related (or even inversely related) to secular giving (Brooks, 2005; Lyons & Nivison-Smith, 2006; Lyons & Passey, 2005). Still, given its prominence (and that fact that there are religious EA groups), it is worth including in our analysis. | โDo you belong to a church or religious group?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q504 ----------------- โWhat church or religious group do you belong to?โ |
Level of education* | Has been found to have a positive relationship with secular giving (Yen, 2002), more EA-aligned giving (e.g., development aid versus emergency aid; Srnka et al., 2003), and there are conflicting results on whether education impacts the amount donated (c.f., Schervish & Havens, 1997; Brooks, 2002). | โWhat type of vocational training or university degree did you receive?โ |
Field of study* | A handful of studies have found graduates of different fields to be differentially generous, although which groups are at the top is inconclusive (c.f., Bekkers & De Graaf, 2006; Belfield & Beney, 2000) | Not available for SOEP-IS |
Income* | Higher income households donate higher amounts than lower ones, however, the relationship with discretionary income is complex and unresolved (McClelland & Brooks, 2004). Income elasticity has been shown to be a salient predictor (Brooks, 2005), but for our purposes, general net income seems like the most sensible since this is information EA organizations might be able to obtain or estimate. | โHow satisfied are you with your household income?โ โHow satisfied are you with your personal income?โhttps://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q66_2 ---------- โI earned [net income]โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q210061001 ---------- โWhat do you think is your monthly gross salary in one year?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q9440 |
Age* | Unclear relationship: generally, appears to increase over time and level off around retirement, but this relationship is highly dependent on covariates such as church attendance, number of children, and marital status. | Should be available. Iโm waiting for confirmation. |
Number of children* | Positively related to philanthropy in most studies, but the age of the children may influence the direction and magnitude of the effect, specifically when they are younger than 14 (Okten & Osili, 2004) and 18 (Okunade & Berl, 1997). | According to โMy Infratestโ, these are the children in your household that were born in 2001 or later. Please state whether these children still live in your household.โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q221 ---------- โฆaccompanied by companion question: โDo more children live in your household which were born in 2001 or later?โ |
Marital status* | Mostly found to be positively related to giving, although a number of studies finding null effects (Apinunmahakul & Devlin, 2004; Carroll et al., 2006) call into question the magnitude of this effect. | โWhat is your family status?โ |
Employment* | The employed generally donate more than the unemployed (Chang, 2005a&b); those who work more (days and hours) donate more (Bekkers, 2004; Yamauchi & Yokoyama, 2005); retirees are highly charitable; self-employed are less generous (Carroll et al., 2006); and public service employees are more likely to engage in philanthropy than for-profit workers (Houston, 2006). | โฆcould confirm officially unemployed: โAre you registered as unemployed at the Employment Office?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q346 โWhat is your current occupational status as a self-employed?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q396 โฆclosest question I could find that gets at something other than for-profit work: โDo you work for a public sector employer?โ |
Gender* | Mixed findings in general and no finding when looking at one-person households (Andreoni et al., 2003). Still, given the ubiquity of this variable, it is sensible to include it in the model even though I have little faith it will be significant. | Should be available. Iโm waiting for confirmation. |
Race* | Caucasians generally give more, but this finding is tempered by the cause (non-whites donate more to the poor and religious organizations; Brooks, 2004; Brown & Ferris, 2007; Smith & Sikkink, 1998). | Should be available. Iโm waiting for confirmation. |
Parental background* | Higher levels of parental education, parental religious involvement, and parental volunteering in the past are related to higher amounts currently donated by children (Bekkers 2005a). While current parental income and church attendance also predict giving (Lunn et al., 2001; Marr et al., 2005). | I thought a proxy for parentโs occupational prestige might be a salient predictor. Questions 496-502 cover the motherโs background and have the exact same wording. Questions split depending on occupation and all contain the header: โWhat was your fatherโs occupational status asโฆโ โA self-employed person?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q491 โA civil servant?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q490 โA white-collar worker?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q489 โA blue-collar worker?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q488 โWhat type of school leaving certificate did your father attain?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q485 โDid your father complete vocational training or a university degree?โ |
Personality* | Donations have been found to increase with emotional stability and extraversion (Bekkers, 2006b), as well as openness to experience (Levy et al., 2002). General social trust has also been found to be a salient predictor (Brooks, 2005; Micklewright & Schnepf, 2007). Empathy has been found to be related to donations (Bekkers & Wilhem, 2006), as well as altruism. | Big Five Personality traits: Agreeableness: โis considerate and kind to othersโ Openness to experience: โis eager for knowledgeโ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q73B The self-control scale. Sample item: โI am good at resisting temptation.โ 10-item scale split between two links below. |
Cognitive ability* | Persons with higher verbal scores (Bekkers & De Graaf, 2006), IQ (Millet & Dewitte, 2007), GPA (Marr et al., 2005), and ability to think in abstract terms (Levy et al., 2002) donate more. | Innovation exercise to assess emotional intelligence. โWhat emotion was shown by the individual? For every emotion, please rate how strongly you perceived it. If you saw a group, please rate the emotion of the individual in the middle.โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q69 For questions assessing quantitative skills (probabilities): โOut of 1,000 people in a small town 500 are members of a choir. Out of these 500 members in the choir 100 are men. Out of the 500 inhabitants that are not in the choir 300 are men. What is the probability that a randomly drawn man is a member of the choir? Please indicate the probability in percent.โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q120 https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q121 https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q122 https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q123 Items 888-928 assess the ability to do expected utility calculations: โPlease imagine the following situation: You have the choice between a safe payment and a lottery. In detail: Do you prefer a 50% opportunity to win 300 Euro while you do not win anything by 50% or a safe payment of 160 Euro.โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q888 Quantitative skills: โNow answer another question within 20 seconds. Continue the multiplication tables of the base 17 as far as possible. Starting with 17, 34, etc. The time is running - now.โ |
Context* | Donations are influenced by behavior of coworkers in the same salary quartile (positive; Carman, 2006), income inequality (negative; Okten & Osili, 2004), individualistic cultures (positive; Kemmelmeier et al., 2006), and the stock market (positive; Drezner, 2006). | Stock market optimism: โInitially we focus on the next year (next 12 months). Do you expect the DAX [German blue-chip index] to show rather profit or loss compared to the current value?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q852 Numeric version: โExpressed in numbers: What [Profit/Loss] do you expect for the next year overall in percent?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q853 This same question stem of stock market optimism is used for items about the next two, ten, and thirty years |
Occupational prestige* | Generally, positively related to donations (Carroll, McCarthy, & Newman, 2006). | Current occupation (open question): https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q375 ---------- Occupation (answer choices included): https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q378 ----------Political orientation* Each occupation choice is then further refined: Blue-collar worker https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q388 White-collar worker https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q389 Civil servant https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q390 Apprentice/intern https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q391 Self-employed |
Political orientation* | Previously, no differences were found for secular donations (Brooks, 2005), but Fehr et al. (2019: 26) find that โfor right-of-center respondents, there are indications that higher national relative income is related both correlationally and causally to more giving to poor Germans and Kenyans.โ | Item designed by Fehr et al. (2019): โIn politics people often talk about โleftโ and โrightโ to mark different political attitudes. If you think about your own political attitude: Where would you place yourself?โ |
Locus of control* | Persons with an internal locus of control are more likely to engage in philanthropy and other formal helping behaviors (Amato, 1985). | Ten item scale with the stem: โThe following statements describe different attitudes towards life and the future. To which degree do you personally agree with the individual statements?โ |
Health* | People in better health donate more (Bekkers 2006b, Bekkers & De Graaf, 2006). | โHow would you describe your current health?โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q507 โHow satisfied are you with your health?โ |
Mood* | Positive affect facilitates giving, while negative moods may also facilitate giving in specific circumstances but it is conditional on lots of factors (e.g., helping contains minimal barriers and when prompted to think about the negative feelings that would result from not helping; Cunningham et al., 1980; Weyant, 1978). | Short scale of emotions (angry, afraid, happy, sad): โThinking back on the past four weeks, please state how often you have experienced each of the following feelings very rarely, rarely, occasionally, often, or very often. How often have you felt...โ |
Values* | Endorse of prosocial values has a positive association with charitable giving. This is also true of individuals who are less materialistic (Sargeant et al., 2000) and care about justice (Todd & Lawson, 1999). | Questions 172-175 on justice. For example, the stem โTo begin with it is about situations which result in others advantage and your disadvantage, because you were penalized, exploited or treated unfair. To what extent do you agree with the following statements?โ Followed by โIt makes me angry when other are undeservingly better off than me.โ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q172 https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q173 https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q174 https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q175 ---------- Prosocial work values, particularly of interest: โSocially responsible and important workโ and โHaving much influence.โ |
Previous donations* | Charitable giving is to some extent habitual behavior (Barrett, 1991; Barrett et al., 1997). | Not available for SOEP-IS |
Optimism | Belief that the future could be better might provide motivation to influence it in becoming better. | โWhen you think about the future, are youโฆโ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q160 Likelihood of events (e.g., financially successful, not get any serious illness, successful at work, content in general) happening compared to other people the same age and gender. |
Life satisfaction | Spending money on others has been shown to have a consistent, causal impact on well-being (Aknin, Barrington-Leigh, Dunn, Helliwell, Biswas-Diener, Kemeza, Nyende, Ashton-James, & Norton, 2010). โOne possibility is reverse causality, that is, that those who are inherently happier by nature are also more likely to help individualsโ (Moynihan, DeLeire, & Enami, 2015). | โIn conclusion, we would like to ask you about your satisfaction with your life in general. How satisfied are you with your life, all things considered?โ |
Risk propensity | Cluelessness has been cited as a case against longtermism (Greaves & MacAskill, 2021). Thus, individuals that are predisposed to EA but are risk-adverse may be more likely to make global health and development donations. | Stem: โWhat do you think about yourself: How prepared to take risks are you in general?โ โnot ready to take risk at all ... ready to take riskโ https://paneldata.org/soep-is/inst/soep-is-2017-f/Q445 โWhat did you think of when you made your estimate (i.e., the value) regarding your preparedness to take risks?โ |
DR comments:
A very interesting list of features
were these all asked before the charity questions? (I'm worried about reverse causality otherwise)
maybe remove 'unavailable' rows for space\
We should discuss how the fitted model will be used and interpreted ... maybe identifying a few collections of useful subsets:
DR notes on 15 Dec 2021 meeting with